Speaker 1: 0:20

What's up everybody. Welcome to Paradigm Shift. I'm beyond excited today because this is a guest that we've had on once before. We had the most traction period into story with this guy and he is the sponsor of the Paradigm Shift and we are sitting at a table that probably costs roughly 30,000 that he decided to donate for me to be my sponsor for the podcast. So, ryan Bussinato, thank you, buddy, I love you. Thanks for being here.

Speaker 2: 0:43

Thanks for having Ryan. I appreciate it, man.

Speaker 1: 0:44

So he owns 10 Day Doors here in town. He also owns PMG Manufacturing. I'm going to let him share his story and his background, but it's very unique and I'm going to pull some stuff out of him that he's not ready for, because you know me guys, I my guests, but I also were. I'm hoping that you guys are going to see another, uh, um, I would say another resource for you to use if you're somewhat in my space or if you're looking for something special that's in his lane. I want you guys to be able to reach out to him, cause he's a, he's got a, a gift, and I don't say that often to people. I've been watching him for many years.

Speaker 1: 1:20

I actually have friends from 20 years ago that used to work with Ryan on some other manufacturing materials, and he's just he's, he's probably the I don't even know how to describe it, but he's probably one of the best in his space. And when you walk into his hundred and ten thousand square foot office, if you will, he's just got robotic arms everywhere and he's got different type of you know steel development being built out and all kinds of different contracts, and he just kind of can do it all. So, ryan, again, buddy, I love you. Thanks for being here. You're one of my favorite people in the whole world. I am your biggest fan, as you know. I refer everybody I can over to you, because you've just made me look really good and you're saving me a shitload of money, dude. So I love you bro.

Speaker 2: 2:02

Appreciate you so much, right? I really, really appreciate the kind words and thanks for having me, of course.

Speaker 1: 2:06

All right, so let's lead up into this. I want you to share the audience a little bit about you, what you, what you do, a little bit about your manufacturing company, what's your specialty. But let's talk real quick, go back to like the beginning, how long you've up in the space and kind of where you are today.

Speaker 2: 2:27

Yeah, well, I really probably start with my grandfather. He was a, a metalers machinist, a tool and die maker, um really really with a lot of accolades, did a lot of stuff in his day. Uh had a machine shop and uh shop in Watts in Los Angeles all through the 50s and 60s and 70s and from him came my father. There were two children, my father and my aunt. And my father, naturally because he grew up in the machine shop, was a machinist before he graduated high school. But he had a really neat story. He was uh drafted, uh uh by the uh marine corps and uh went down, signed up in the navy for vietnam and he was on a uh machine ship um that did all the repairs for the other the fleet. He was, you know, on and uh the machinist, the head machinist for the ship, died.

Speaker 2: 3:24

And here's my 18 year old father um fit in that position for that machining ship, for that fleet, and he was the head machinist for the fleet and did, did uh all the machining and uh really a master machinist and a metallurgist um. So he he did a lot of work for a lot of refineries, like he's a really a pump expert, which if you're a pump. You know everything's a pump. You know motor, you know uh combustion motor. I mean everything's kind of a pump, but he's that's kind of his lane pump expert and machinist, metallurgist. Um, he did a lot of work with refineries when I was growing up and then he did work with uh, a lot of work I think 25, 30 years with southern cal, southern California Edison, the nuclear power plant there. So he was real well known all over the world for his pump work and he developed the nuclear canisters that the spent fuel waste is in all over the world now he actually developed that.

Speaker 2: 4:18

That was his deal. So pretty, pretty neat. He's got a lot of, did a lot of stuff. And you know when I came out of high school I went through a apprenticeship with him at Southern California Edison and I was also selling cars, you know when I was going through red badge training. So you know I liked money, you know, and I liked what money could buy and whatnot. And I didn't see myself, don't we all?

Speaker 2: 4:43

Yeah, I didn't see myself going through a um, uh being a machinist um, which I'm not uh, but went through that apprenticeship and uh worked for 16 months out at Edison and then went back to selling cars and then became a car dealer. And um, when I bought my first Honda dealer, my son was about six years old and we went into racing off-road racing so we developed the biggest, largest off-road racing team and short course at the time, and then desert and a lot of other stuff. So we developed a race shop, if you will, which had a lot of fabrication tools in it, you know, hand fabrication tools. And then over the years, uh, we got out of racing in in um uh the mid to late two thousands and uh, we had this big shop that developed into now robotics and uh fiber laser stuff.

Speaker 2: 5:40

Yeah, it just morphed because you know our customers through all the racing sponsorships and you know whether it be OEMs, ford or you know. We started developing, getting you know, getting requests for tolerance and parts that we couldn't build with fabrication machinery. So we got into manufacturing and it's kind of unique because the timeframe, if you think about it, you know, this advanced manufacturing machinery just started to come out.

Speaker 1: 6:07

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 6:07

You know really the developments in….

Speaker 1: 6:09

The technology was really behind for a long time.

Speaker 2: 6:12

It really was. Yeah, you know, to manufacture something apart, you would have to think about big volume. You know you'd have to build a mold for it. Stamp that part out. Now we can build a real high-toler tolerance part over and over again. You know hundreds of thousands of them, um, one at a time, you know, and they can happen real fast through advanced manufacturing, machinery and robotics.

Speaker 2: 6:35

So, um, you know, we grew our shop to that stage and then my son, uh, instead of following in the racing steps, he, he went into the engineering and started, uh, became a really an expert in the software that we use to to really design anything and build anything. It's all drawn and that software's uh, it's done in in writing first before anything's sent to the the uh machines, obviously, and uh, we're able to verbalize that and everybody's on the same page. So, but, uh, you know, we, we, I've been in manufacturing now a little over 25 years. I've been around it my whole life. But you know what I really like? I mean, obviously I still like money, but but I, what I really like is I really like to build and create.

Speaker 1: 7:18

Yeah, you know, you've always had that artistic mind.

Speaker 2: 7:21

Yeah, yeah, you know, it's what really. You know, at the end of the day, what's the best reward for me? That feeling I get when you know someone like you, you know, that has this vision of something, comes to me and says can we do this, can we do that? And you know, I think of it, about it, and figure out how to do it. You know, put our heads together and we, we develop a concept and then you basically build people's dreams.

Speaker 1: 7:42

You make them. You make dreams come true. Yeah, I love it. That's really what you do. Yeah, I love love to do it.

Speaker 2: 7:46

So that's my dream, you know, I guess. Um, so it's, it's been a, it's been a great journey and it continues to even get better and better. You know there were a lot of the stuff after we moved from Southern California to know is. Some people think it's a step back. For me it's leaps forward because it's, you know, we're in all this different development industry. I would agree.

Speaker 2: 8:13

You know structural steel and everything. I mean it's really neat, yeah, so I really enjoy that. But you know, in terms of manufacturing, we can, you know, at my factory we have everything from. You know, we specialize in steel. We have an aerospace machine shop. We're an ANSI ISO machine shop, and then we have same thing in terms of quality in our sheet metal and our forming. So we have big fiber lasers and robotic brakes and whatnot. We do all welding in-house. We have the ability to do robotic welding. We do powder coat in-house. We do computer science, circuitry, so we can design circuitry, peripherals, those sort of things all in-house.

Speaker 2: 8:51

It's a lot of fun Back in the day with racing. We've kept a lot of the flavor that we've had with racing, like the large format print, the vehicle wrap stuff and all of this you know, and the graphic arts and whatnot. You know, my graphic artists has been with me since the racing days, you know, and he was an apprentice to the real graphic artists, you know. That's, you know, passed on now but anyhow, um, it's been kind of neat, you know, to keep those accounts and keep that going and at being able to add these things to manufacturing and everything that it brings. So, cause it, it does bring another element, all these extra little tools that you have.

Speaker 1: 9:25

Oh, you bet.

Speaker 2: 9:26

But I got to say I love working with you, ryan, and your projects. It makes me put extra effort into those projects because of how special they are and how you care about your projects, which I really am honored to work with you and people like that and and your vision. So it's been a great journey, especially with you on your projects, but all around it's been great.

Speaker 1: 9:51

Well, I think, I think well. First of all, thank you. That means a lot, because we have a lot of people that rely on us. You know, and I think one of the things I've learned the most is whoever we engage with to help us build something, we want them to really know what our responsibilities are you know and how we need to really execute.

Speaker 1: 10:10

We need the, you know, we need the best of the best, you know, and really a lot of it has to do with time and speed and money. Yeah, that's what it all comes down to. Yeah, it's really cool because we can build stuff like these tables. It's something that we want, which you've transitioned to, is something that people need, you know. So you're, you've created an institutional grade manufacturing company. You are, you have, so the heavy lift is done. Right, you have plenty of room. You can scale, you can get bigger. I mean, you're big enough, but you can get bigger if you want to, you can do things at much larger scale.

Speaker 1: 10:39

I mean, obviously, you and I have been engaging for my, for my audience that doesn't know this. I have a barn caves project. That's here in Lecavesu. We're talking about about 500,000 square feet, 93 units of single family, three-story, standalone, single family detached homes, and this entire thing is built out of steel, and so there's not only paneling, but there's also a lot of structural steel and other architectural steel that goes along with it.

Speaker 1: 11:03

And the thing about Ryan is is that we went to him knowing that his capacity is set up in a way where you can actually cater to all of that product. And because of just, I think, the overall economy and political environment and just everything that happened with the fires and just kind of how we positioned our brand, you know, we knew that this will take root and we have I mean we I mean we have multiple, you know sites across the country that we're looking at building these things, and so for us, it was so important to align with somebody who has the ability to actually deliver on those results, because if I'm going to a bank and saying, hey, I need a hundred million, this is my vision, I need to be able to deliver on that vision.

Speaker 2: 11:39

So I better go find the groups that are doing it.

Speaker 1: 11:41

And so I better go find the groups that are doing it. And so I like to pride ourselves that we like to bring on the best of the best, and so it's so crazy that you were right here in Lake Havasu.

Speaker 2: 11:49

I had no clue, bizarre.

Speaker 1: 11:51

I remember Eric calling me going hey, I got to introduce you to my boy, ryan, and he's like I'm selling this house, whatever. I'm like, okay, yeah, and he kept remember I deal, hey, trust me, you need to come see this. I walk into guys, I walk into this. It's the old Kmart building in Lake Havasu, okay, so you can imagine, and it has 10-day doors on the front and I'm like, okay, when I used to drive by it, I thought you sold doors like a furniture store, but doors and I knew you probably did custom doors, whatever, I'm in the space, I get it.

Speaker 2: 12:29

I get it. Well, I'm like, I feel like it's the front, I'm like you might as well just put laundry room, or laundry on the front, bro, because you walk inside of this place and it's just like a whole nother level.

Speaker 1: 12:32

I mean, you have robotic arms. How many C or C? Uh was it C? Uh CNC machines you have?

Speaker 2: 12:34

Um six, six in the machine shop, but more than that because all the labor uh laser towers are CNC, the brakes are CNC.

Speaker 1: 12:47

So probably 18 machines or somewhere in that neighborhood. Every time I take somebody over to brag about you and take me on tour, what's the number one thing I want you to always show? Nitrogen generate tell everybody what you created. Please, I do people need to know what. I didn't personally create it, but I've never seen it before in my life when we came to the city our late.

Speaker 2: 13:02

Our big lasers, our fiber lasers, with the robotic towers, use an incredible amount of liquid nitrogen. So where the old Kmart is, it's really the entrance to Main Street here in Lake Havasu, which is a very affluent city in Mojave.

Speaker 1: 13:18

County. It's the main vein in the city. Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 2: 13:20

So anyway, the city wouldn't allow us. At the old factory we had big nitrogen tanks and we'd get semis come in and fill the tanks and whatnot. The city wouldn't allow us. At the old factory we had big nitrogen tanks and we'd get semis come in and fill the tanks and whatnot. The city wouldn't allow us to do that in the middle of the city with apartments across and condos.

Speaker 1: 13:34

The middle of the city exploding.

Speaker 2: 13:38

So I'm like well, we can't run our lasers without nitrogen. Anyway, I learned about these nitrogen generation stations, so we ended up putting one of those in which makes liquid nitrogen out of the air to supply our lasers with nitrogen.

Speaker 1: 13:51

To break it down, it was millions of dollars, got it.

Speaker 2: 13:53

Okay, that's all I had to hear. It's all millions of dollars. All of it's millions of dollars.

Speaker 1: 13:57

It's funny. I walked out of there and I remember calling my old man because my old man is such a tinker. He loves this stuff. He's such a tinker, he loves this stuff, he's all into it. I'm like pops, and it was because he's here in town. I talk to him every day I'm like you need to go see this guy he's like.

Speaker 2: 14:08

I'm trying to explain what he's like wait, what?

Speaker 1: 14:09

like? Are you serious? He walked in, remember, and brought him in he's like what the hell is going? On and it was one of those. It was actually because we always talk about how lake albacete, there's a, there's a something just telling my a friend of mine. There's a brand. A guy in the riviera has a brand new, uh kind of seg and I'm like, dude, it's a five million dollar car like.

Speaker 1: 14:30

But you who never think that stuff is out here it is out here and so the point is is that, you know, I would have never thought a company like yours is out here. So I walked into this thing and I'm like I gotta call my ceo dude, because he will understand what we're trying to do overall. And I got to tell him about my boy, you know, and uh, and so it just kind of took root. But that's also what allowed us to kind of go into hey, what if we went to manufacture these things? And I say it all the time, you know, and this is kind of going back to the testament of, like what you've created.

Speaker 1: 14:58

You know, I tell people all the time the people who made the most money during the gold rush were the ones who provided the picks and the shovels. Yeah, so, as I understand, you know, I come from a debt leverage background. Right, I manage a hundred million dollar debt fund now, and so, from a construction financing first trustees, I get that world and I know about a lot of developers and how it all works, and so I'm sitting there going like man, we could develop this product across the country, go to builders and say you literally can stamp your name on it, we'll just manufacture the.

Speaker 1: 15:23

And so I looked at it from, because it was just the new trend, you know, barn dominiums is trendy. The big garages are trendy, man caves are trendy, like but people, you can buy these for cheaper than a regular house and your insurance is cheaper, right?

Speaker 2: 15:38

So because of the fires and so forth, so well, and then the build and the time the build time is so much less with them because of you know, like Ryan said, they're all made out of steel and some structural and plate steel and whatnot. But the way that the structural goes together isn't the traditional way. It's not, doesn't sit on pads, it's not, you know, bolted, it's not suspension bolt, it all sits in cradles. So you're able to put this, this steel, together and it's able to stack all together and fasten it and you're not hanging it, so to speak, like you would structural steel, so you're able to get this barn dominium in a kit and really, from start to finish, pick everything out and it shows up on site and there it is. The number one thing we wait on when we're building is products, the next, the next trade to be done, and then you know product. You know products from the manufacturer to come in, the next trade to be ready to install.

Speaker 1: 16:33

I mean, it's just this big, it's herding cats we call it and in really, in many ways the way that it was developed was kind of the forefront of thinking from a management level, moving trades in and kind of following each other. It's all about speed. So we try to focus on designing and manufacturing this in a way where the, the gc or us or whoever is going to take these things on, can do it in speed and make up the delta for going after steel genius, genius, design.

Speaker 2: 16:55

And you know he saves a trade of framing right off the get. So you know, and and many others because of the package and, and you know how it's designed. But you know you start saving you when you talk about framing. It's one of the largest expenses of building. So, uh, you take that out.

Speaker 1: 17:09

I know, yeah, I know, you would know. We're going to talk about that in a minute, but keep going.

Speaker 2: 17:13

I know you would know, um, but, uh, anyhow it's, it's just really uh, a dynamic way to look at uh uh development on a much more um, accelerated uh uh schedule and the quality of the product too. Usually, when you talk about accelerated, you compromise quality. The quality of this product is second to none because it's all, everything is built, it's not, oh, cut that off and join it here on site, at the job site. So, um, really, I'm real excited about those. You know the barn caves. That project is just genius. Um, I love to be part of that team and I and I thank you for that. But you know, I think that you know, the architectural team that you have on that too is just, I'm just elated to work with those guys. You know the Salzburg from here, obviously, and and Rob and Todd and whatnot but, but, uh, but steven beagle, and I mean his, he's just a genius.

Speaker 1: 18:09

We have two, we have some two really good architects yeah, aligned on this project, yeah people like you have two. Yeah, we do, yeah, you sure do and they are really good.

Speaker 2: 18:16

So it's really neat, you know, and being in the trade you know the number one thing you pick on is architect, because they forget something or whatnot. But you have the very best of the best of the best.

Speaker 1: 18:25

You know it's funny. A lot of people don't know this, but when you go and hire an architect, if you're just trying to focus on saving money, a lot of times a good architect will actually help you with the design build or the way it's designed save you money.

Speaker 2: 18:38

And that's where it comes down.

Speaker 1: 18:39

That's where the experience comes in.

Speaker 2: 18:40

See it all the time. You got a 40 foot span and someone's putting a 128 foot you know pound a foot beam when you could do a 68 pound a foot beam there, which is just a huge difference in cost savings. You know one to the other, the other beam I-beam works to strand the. You know the distance but it's. You know you don't need a hundred ton crane to put it in, you need a cherry picker. I mean to handle it and manufacture it, to put the web supports and everything in. So having an experienced architect that knows the right engineers and everything right on the project will save the developer loads of money. That's probably a great, great point to make, ryan, for the listeners out there, because you know, I see it over and over again where someone you know the inexperience over engineer yep over engineer and when you over engineer, you know the builder, the developer pays for that.

Speaker 2: 19:36

It's a lot more money. So, um, yeah, yeah, they can save you a lot of money they absolutely can.

Speaker 1: 19:41

And you know, I don't know if I ever told you this. Do you know what I tell? Sorry, I tell everybody, like if I just want to battle with him a little bit. I said do you have a friend who actually owns a crane truck? Because I do so, just for our listeners to understand, let him share with you. So this man has grown his business so much that he now owns a crane truck. Okay, and so he got this thing.

Speaker 2: 20:02

Use it every day. The guys use it every day.

Speaker 1: 20:04

I'm over at Dover and I'm like well, I think you called me when you bought it. I'm like well, I think you called me when you bought it. I'm driving it home right now. It won't go faster than 40. I was like oh my gosh, you're driving a crane truck home.

Speaker 2: 20:15

Well, I sent a transport. It was on a. It was used, obviously. It was on a gold mine forever, so it never come off the dirt and I sent a transport, a flatbed to get it.

Speaker 1: 20:27

You know, they're like have you seen that?

Speaker 2: 20:29

big. Yeah, he's just like. I'm like you know, this is a guy I do a lot of business with. I'm like, just listen, steve, just get the damn crane bring it. You know he's like I can't see.

Speaker 2: 20:36

it's illegal, it's too high, it's all this and that. I'm like I don't give a shit, just bring the thing, get you know, bring the. So anyway, he gets outside of Kingman and he calls me up. He says I'm done. I mean he's just done, he's ready to sever the relationship. He says come get this train. I'm taking it off my truck right now. He says I'm going to prison. Okay, it's like 19 feet tall. He's got to drive around signals. Oh, my goodness gracious he couldn't get under the overpasses and whatnot, but anyhow. So I end up going out there with my wife to pass Kingman and get in this thing. And it's a six-speed, it's a clutch, the whole nine, this huge semi-crane. So it'll do about 60 downhill full.

Speaker 2: 21:21

In neutral yeah.

Speaker 1: 21:25

I love it too, but anyway yeah, we use that a lot.

Speaker 2: 21:27

It's been a great addition to the fleet of crap we have.

Speaker 1: 21:31

So let's talk about the structural steel that you did for the family office and the headquarters for Paradigm.

Speaker 2: 21:40

Yeah well, paradigm, the family office, society, dla headquarters we're building here in town and it's just magnificent. In a few months, that's where all this will happen right, so yeah it's just magnificent uh building and and Ryan's vision for that building.

Speaker 2: 21:59

but we're doing. You know we've been involved with that project from the beginning. We did all the uh structural steel there. Um, uh, we're manufacturing all the staircase there's there's three floating staircases in it. We're manufacturing roof fascia and trim. You know these big aluminum awnings that are all trick. There's all neon lights around, all the attributes. It's just such a beautiful, I mean such a tasteful building. It's gorgeous. So we got doors and windows. We're doing all the doors and windows in it, all dual pane, quarter inch glass, beautiful aluminum extruded stuff. All first class.

Speaker 1: 22:34

This entire building.

Speaker 2: 22:36

We're doing five huge accordion doors in that building. It's going to be a gorgeous building, but you know we started. So we, you know we worked together with Ryan in the beginning of when he designed it and whatnot, and then we went through and worked with the concrete guys. Of course, dennis, you know, every day you know we work with but the concrete guys and then we erected the steel and now we've been building all this other the stairs and the trim and all the other stuff that we're doing this week, while all the doors and windows are coming in. So it's a neat project. You know I'm good, I'm excited to get it done and it's coming together real quick. It's in the next, in the next month. I mean, it's been really it's been huge project progress in the last two months oh yeah you know, it's been like whoa every time you go there.

Speaker 2: 23:22

Okay, yeah, you know so I think we planned it. Well, we planned it out very well we managed. It real, it real well, well, and it's being managed every day really well, I'm there every day.

Speaker 1: 23:32

Dennis is there five times a day. Dennis is just Takai's there, you're there, everyone's there.

Speaker 2: 23:35

Yeah, and you know, I think everybody involved with it it's what I really like about working on your projects is everybody involved with it, has ownership in it and they really want it done right, right. They want to do the right thing, want to go to the extra mile, and that's really the overall feeling when you're working with all the subs. Obviously, dennis, you and Dennis put that feeling out there, but it's really neat to do that and work on something first class and really work on something to make it great. But this is going to be, without a doubt, if not, the nicest building in around here I mean, there's nothing like that.

Speaker 1: 24:13

There's nothing, no, until you build the gym, you know but you know we're just coming real quick too.

Speaker 2: 24:17

But um, yeah, it's just, you know it's going to be. Even in the frame state that it's in right now, you can see the quality of the building oh yeah, it's really gorgeous.

Speaker 1: 24:27

I have people that are texting me and calling me going. I literally drove by your building for the first time.

Speaker 2: 24:31

They're like that thing is insane it is built like a brick shit house man, it won't move.

Speaker 1: 24:35

I mean, a hurricane come out here and we're gonna be the only ones that survive.

Speaker 2: 24:39

Tell me a little you know. Tell the audience a little about your vision for that building after it's done. What you're doing there. What's going on with family office society?

Speaker 1: 24:46

so ultimately. So there's there's kind of a new trend out there it's called family office networking and ultimately think of it as as somebody who's overseeing a network of people verifying they're the real deal yeah, that's probably the best way to put it Right. I we're going to have a bunch of. I have a lot of really good people in my network that I spent 20 years building relationships with that I know will deliver on what they say they're going to deliver. You know, and right now, with the market and just everything you see on social media, you don't know who to believe anymore. And and and business is just getting more and more difficult and what I'm doing is I'm saying, hey guys, look I'm. And even if it's a new relationship or a referral, I mean I'm still going to vet them. I'm going to do.

Speaker 1: 25:24

I was times where if I want to do background checks, I can do background checks. We use clear for background for all the mortgages and so forth, cause I lend. You know I lend money to security, so I always I have background ability. I could text my assistant right now, oh yeah.

Speaker 1: 25:39

I should start yeah.

Speaker 2: 25:40

I got a list for you after this, where they live.

Speaker 1: 25:43

Oh yeah, but, and then you know, and then we have, you know, the people that have built businesses. You know, honestly, when you sit back and you listen to the people that have really worked hard for their money. They've been kicked in the teeth a hundred million times to get to where they are today and that's how, for whatever reason, the way that I knew that I had the right group was because they care about their brand. Yeah, like they're looking at this going, hey, we respect paradigm, we can't. We know that tying ourselves to paradigm is going to help our brand, yeah, and what we want to do is make sure we're delivering the same type of quality to the standard that paradigm wants it, and then we are going to make it even better than we've ever made it before. And that's what. Everything. That's the feeling that I have. So you can only imagine what it feels like being in my shoes when you have people that actually give a shit.

Speaker 2: 26:38

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 26:39

And I have enough of people around me that don't give a shit you know, don't we all? Over time you can smell the real ones Right, and so, ultimately, what I'm doing is I'm trying to give value to like my network and people by going, hey look, be a part of this venue and everybody who's here is the real deal.

Speaker 2: 26:52

And I've hated them.

Speaker 1: 26:53

Yeah, you know and now you can grow your business with people I'll put them all in the same room of people who actually really know what the hell they're doing in their trade. Whether you're an attorney or you know you're a CPA or you do tax strategy or whatever wealth management whatever they do, they're going to be the best at you know. And then you also kind of have those. Other people are like I don't need to do anything, I'm retired and have a lot of money.

Speaker 1: 27:13

Right, we like those people and we just want to go play golf and you know, have a you know golf simulator, but they want to be around like-minded people. So you have you know a few golf simulators, a couple of race simulators. You know it's really cool cars, whether it's luxury or old cars. You know supercars, trucks, all kinds of stuff that'll be in this big space and it's kind of like a talking piece. It's like a nice watch that you and I are both wearing the same freaking watch right now, by the way.

Speaker 2: 27:38

And I don't know if you caught that Yours is nicer than mine, but it's the same brand. This is older. Okay, fair enough.

Speaker 1: 27:44

It's the same brand, yeah, same watch same exact watch yeah.

Speaker 1: 27:49

But you know, and then you know we're going to have, you know, people can have brick and mortar if they want to have an office in there. We'll have people that can use, like the podcast studio. Because we are so heavy in marketing, we want to give our tools to people that want to grow their business. You know, I'm actually thinking about launching an entire coaching program that's really set up for people who are trying to raise capital and develop and kind of like how to do all of that right from.

Speaker 1: 28:12

You know how to identify a real estate property and check zoning to acquisition strategy, contracts, negotiations, all the way down to selecting the right contractors and the subs, down to you know pro formas and you know understanding the market for financing and go raising a capital, opening a fund. Like fund management, I'm literally going to give people soup to nuts on how to identify a good real estate deal, raise the capital and make money at the end.

Speaker 2: 28:38

Wow.

Speaker 1: 28:39

And so what I want to do is offer that too. But there's segments within there. One big segment is marketing creating awareness of what you're trying to accomplish and build relationships. So marketing is such a footprint for my company. People can come in and just look at how we practice on the marketing side and just add value there.

Speaker 2: 28:55

Right.

Speaker 1: 28:55

So people are like well, hey, I've been wanting to, I'm a developer, but I've never opened a fund they can isolate. I want to learn how to manage a fund so people can come in and no matter what stage you are in or really what business that you're in, private equity has some sort of play in your business.

Speaker 2: 29:10

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 29:10

Right, so like veterinarians right, I was talking to this the other day veterinarians I don't know if you know this, but veterinarians are one of the like private equity firms are buying veterinarians like crazy. Because, as you know, you know they say by 2030, 50% of all women over the age of 30 will be childless and single. And when you look at that, you look at public products, like you know, we'll just call some hair salons or hair whatever. You know, all the beauty products are just booming, along with pet food.

Speaker 2: 29:37

Right.

Speaker 1: 29:38

So you all, everyone's got dogs now and cats now and animals if they're single. It's just the way it's like a thing you know?

Speaker 2: 29:43

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1: 29:44

So, but when you look at the valuations of those companies, they're going through the roof. So the point to all of that, going one tangent after another, you know you have that kind of like that, that kind of movement. You want to be able to build awareness and start showing people, kind of, how the world works and private equity. So no matter what you do for a living, there's some sort of bigger institutional structure in play for you to scale your business. That's it in a nutshell, and if it's not me, I have people in the network that can probably help you there.

Speaker 2: 30:11

Sure, that's it. I think that's great. Yeah, but it's a cool thing. I've heard that you didn't know that. No, I didn't know you were going to do that. You saw probably like what we were going to do with the cars and so forth, yeah, and obviously it's headquarters.

Speaker 1: 30:21

Everybody will be under the same roof, tyc, backgrounds and like all the marketing you can think of. But a really cool venue, private venue. You know you have to have your own key fob, you have to be a part of the network to get into this place. If it's really hot out here and you don't want to go outside and golf, you can go in there and hit some golf balls. You know if you want to, you know if you like wine.

Speaker 2: 30:43

we're going to have like a little wine. You know, area we yeah, that's going to be neat, so you can kind of get away bring some friends in there, network business, whatever.

Speaker 1: 30:49

You know what I mean. Like it's a big space so you can entertain.

Speaker 2: 30:53

You know it's going to be a good business environment. You can have a little fun. You know it'll be a good place to meet and network and rub elbows, and then I didn't know you were going to do that. I could use a little schooling on a few things.

Speaker 1: 31:07

Well, I'm sure I could go. Well, you don't want to build stuff, you got me to build stuff. Let's talk about a story Now. This is probably the most embarrassing story I've ever said, but the very first time I came and saw you, what the hell did I do? What's the rule?

Speaker 2: 31:19

of thumb.

Speaker 1: 31:19

What's the rule of thumb when you walk into a steel manufacturing building?

Speaker 2: 31:22

Don't touch anything. And what had happened? Cut the shit out of yourself.

Speaker 1: 31:32

I was so bad. We left the blood on the floor for about a month. I remember I came back in like I don't know a week later and you're like, how's your finger? It's still wrapped. I'm like, well, I didn't go get stitches and everyone's telling me I probably should, you should have.

Speaker 2: 31:49

I was like what is it?

Speaker 1: 31:50

Look at this huge rebar. I'm like what's that for and I wanted to pick it up Cause it's like the biggest rebar I've ever seen in my life and you're like, oh yeah, it's a handrail. I'm like someone's got to get a handrail out of that thing.

Speaker 2: 32:04

So I wasn't thinking of that rail actually turned out really neat. It was from one of my general contractors that do a lot of projects with his personal house in Williams.

Speaker 1: 32:12

Even though it bit me and I was bleeding, I still think it was the coolest thing I've ever seen. It was pretty cool. It's funny man.

Speaker 2: 32:18

It's funny because when the guys built his handrail out of it, we had to take all those galls and knurls off that thing, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1: 32:26

Handrail His wife's going to rip the arm off. What it was is I grabbed the edge. I grabbed the edge right where it was cut. That's why it had nothing to do with actually railing.

Speaker 2: 32:32

It was just that edge right there, just that, yeah, and that's normal.

Speaker 1: 32:36

I should have known.

Speaker 2: 32:37

Don't touch it Now, you know. No, I do that judging me from day one.

Speaker 1: 32:40

They're like that's paradigm. Yeah, but he's in here with Sam. I was like, what is he doing? You know, I'm just trying to make my own brand, bro. Yeah, that's great, but yeah, so, um. So, with that said, I think like a lot of the the, the architectural steel that you guys do, it's so impressive and you guys had some uh. So let's talk a little bit about, like your doors, you know, because the doors are really really cool and, and you know, my door in my front, in my front house, I did not know it was you those doors until not too long ago.

Speaker 1: 33:12

But that door is so heavy. It's like I try to tell everybody like go, go move my door, yeah, and just see what. That's the coolest door in the world. Man, I honestly think we're just saying it's a cool door.

Speaker 2: 33:21

But we have about, uh, we have about real close to 2 000 of them that are built and all out in the world, um, but they're, I think they're the world's best door, and you know a lot of architects, a lot of designers, a lot of builders think the same thing.

Speaker 1: 33:35

People across the country are buying them, right we?

Speaker 2: 33:37

ship them all over the country. The neat thing about our doors is there's zero deflection in the door, so you know what deflection is is you put your foot down at the bottom of the door and pull on the handle, does the door kind of twist and bend. Every door that you do does? Um, my doors don't.

Speaker 1: 33:54

and I can, I can build them, they don't move 5,000 pounds which you know it's pretty neat.

Speaker 2: 33:59

You know people think, oh, they're so heavy, how can you have a door that heavy? You know old, you know small people, older people can't open it. Yeah, you can, because the hinge system that you know is built in the aerospace machine shop. We redesigned those so, uh, our doors are really unique. They're all custom made. Um, you know we're shipping them all over. You know the country to you name it. Um, you know, all over the world.

Speaker 1: 34:20

Really what was that?

Speaker 2: 34:21

there was a couple big doors that you just oh boy how tall, big, heavy um, I can do so on our, like our pivot doors. I can do um, uh, 18 foot by 18 foot door, double door set.

Speaker 1: 34:33

So nine foot doors, garage doors oh yeah, bigger than my rv garage doors.

Speaker 2: 34:37

Well, look at, have you been out to iron wolf. I didn't close the uh, I enclosed the whole pool.

Speaker 1: 34:41

I knew that.

Speaker 2: 34:41

Yeah, I knew that just you know those are wasn't one of those doors no, no, it's my pivot doors, my big doors and they're uh, you know those openings are 24 foot feet, so you have uh 12 foot wide, uh by 14 foot doors. You know they're pretty big and those doors are probably 2500 pounds each each door more, yeah, yeah, yeah just the glass and those doors were like 900 pounds just so heavy than 2500.

Speaker 1: 35:06

For sure, yeah, yeah, somewhere, yeah, somewhere up there like a car, yeah you know.

Speaker 2: 35:10

So they're all you know big, you know big stuff and but they work really well. I'm really proud of that product. Um, you know they're I'm really proud of, of anthony, how he's designed that product and christian that runs all of our our uh machinery there. But my son anthony, he's just a solid works. Uh, that's the program we draw everything. Inony, he's just a solid works. Uh, that's the program we draw everything in.

Speaker 2: 35:30

Oh, he's just a solid works genius I watch it yeah, these doors have, you know, almost 300 different pieces inside of them and they're all anything anywhere from quarter inch to eighth inch to half inch steel. Um, they're all fiber, laser cut. So they're actually you know, they're. You know, if you order a door, uh, a certain size, it comes within ten thousandths of an inch of that size. I mean, it's exact. But what's neat about it is Anthony's made it's aerospace calcs.

Speaker 2: 35:54

It really is. Yeah, and Anthony's made which is real new for the door industry. But it's really neat for great big retrofit doors, like we're doing a big house in Pacific Palisades that has this huge arch and it's all precast and he doesn't want to ruin any of that precast Cause it's like 60 years old pre. You know, precast came from Italy and all this stuff you know. So we're able to build the door exactly so it fits inside that slot and the threshold and everything else. So, um, you know it works good.

Speaker 2: 36:22

But what Anthony did when we got into these doors cause he's like every door is, you know, the 10-day doors. We thought we were going to build a big bulk of doors and then sell them. So you know, we built a bunch of 42 by, you know, three and a half by, uh, eight foot, 30 by eight foot, 60 by eight foot door sets and you know we started put the 10-day door thing up there and we were manufacturing all kinds of stuff, but that was local, you know, and thought they'd come in and buy those. But everybody had come in and they want a custom door. So every single, all those pieces, those 300 pieces inside of that door, have to be adjusted every single time. Exact. The doors are even. The hinges are offset depending on the weight of the door, cause there'll be a little bit of a door sag, so the hinges offset, so everything's perfect you know in terms of the fit and finish all the way around.

Speaker 2: 37:09

But Anthony made this along with our computer scientist, daniel made this program in SolidWorks, so he can basically pick the style of door that you want you know whether it's a pivot door or a swing door or double door or whatever and put these sizes in and it automatically sizes everything in the program and we're able to boom, do a quick door for a customer and then we're able to hit another button and flatten all the parts and export those parts with the bend deductions and everything else on them. So they're just perfect. And that's the only way we were able to start to do volume in the doors that macro that he created and these algorithms that he created to do that. So, but pretty neat, the door business is really good. It's great. Like I said, world's best doors, they're amazing.

Speaker 1: 37:59

So let me ask you this. You guys, I mean, I go in there and I just see so many different things that you do. So, what would you, if you can narrow down what it is that you have the capacity to do? Just give us a list.

Speaker 2: 38:13

I think I can build. We can build anything from a aerospace part to a spaceship. I mean, you know it just, it's just engineers, and you know we have.

Speaker 1: 38:22

I hope everybody knows why I like the guy. I mean, we really can't, we really can't you know so it.

Speaker 2: 38:28

You know, you know if the, if the contracts there and the visions there, you know you start to draw it and develop it and you know it really.

Speaker 2: 38:37

You know if, uh, if Newton said it could be done, it can be done you know, if it doesn't define the laws of physics, we're, we're good, you know, um, so, uh, I think we can really build anything that that a customer has resources or wants. Um, you know, and we don't just build it, we draw it, engineer it, design it first, and everybody's on the same page and you get exactly what's drawn. You know, that's kind of how we build stuff, just like this podcast table, you know.

Speaker 1: 39:04

But anyhow, I love. It all right. So I have a. We're going to get into two deeper questions sure because I want everybody to know that for you to be able to get to where you are today, you've had to take some shots.

Speaker 2: 39:14

Oh boy.

Speaker 1: 39:15

Right, I'm going to ask two big questions. One of them and take a second. What do you think one of the hardest things in life you've had to ever go through? I'm sure there's like four or five ones that you decide to blank out, but oh yeah, just throw one at the, it could be.

Speaker 2: 39:35

I know there's enough. Hardest things in life I've had to go through is, uh, probably being a father. Um for sure it's been, uh, the most rewarding thing, uh, the best thing in my life, but it's also given me, you know, the most challenges. You know, um, it's been, um, uh, very challenging, you know, and it's something that you always question yourself Did you do, were you good enough? Could you done something more? I mean, cause you have these wonderful little lives and souls that are, you know, adults now, that are, you know, uh, forging their way through life. They're thinking about having a family themselves, and so it's been, um, definitely, being a father has been the hardest thing, um, but, uh, uh yeah, and so I'm on my second litter right, I'm on my second litter.

Speaker 1: 40:21

How many litter you're on your third. You know it's so common. It's funny because Stephen or you know everyone's on their third well, I'm about 10 years older than you, right?

Speaker 1: 40:29

Everyone who's 10 years older than me is on their third litter and I'm sitting there going like I don't know. You know it's funny. I'm justifying it with going. You know, guys in my field are so used to having three litters. Right, you know, my old mentor has three litters. Everyone's got three litters. It's like at least I know which way my life's going to go, but anyway. So let's talk a little bit about what you and I discussed just recently. You're actually about to have a little boy.

Speaker 2: 40:52

I am, yeah, congratulations. Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1: 40:54

But that was stressful, which is not something anybody should ever go through, and the only reason I'm bringing it up is because there's actually a happy ending.

Speaker 2: 41:01

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1: 41:02

So let's talk about kind of what the hell happened, man, because that that would when you told when I, when you told me this, I was so like, I felt, like I felt your pain yeah as a dad and when you like, you said you just well, and I was just worried about my wife, I mean her pain yeah, you know, I mean, it was uh terrible situation and you know I'll share with the listeners here.

Speaker 2: 41:25

uh, my wife's uh 42 years old. She's never been pregnant before. Uh, we got married back in October and, um, she got pregnant in December and uh, we weren't planning it, she didn't think she could get pregnant.

Speaker 1: 41:41

Why would you plan that?

Speaker 2: 41:43

Well, kids are wonderful, but yeah, no one's planning, um, but uh, uh. So she had a high risk pregnancy. So we got to week uh, 21, 22, and uh, we go down to Phoenix for medical care and whatnot, and we went to a specialist, you know, to do a specialist ultrasound for that stage or whatnot, and um, we got some terrifying news that the baby, uh, wasn't normal and wasn't going to have a normal life, and uh was a, uh had a dandy Walker uh syndrome and um, uh, the doctor told us that the baby, you know, was going to go through surgeries the first few years of its life and and um probably not lived past, you know, nine years old, and it was really um, um traumatic, especially for my wife, and you know, since then it was about two and a half weeks we were hanging in that limbo and questioning whether not to bring a child in the world. You know, we both don't believe in abortion, but we also don't believe in uh bringing a, bringing hurt into the world either, you know, um.

Speaker 2: 42:57

So, anyhow, my wife was really, you know, for the for the two weeks that this went on, um, and now she, you know, right now she's 30, uh, 31 weeks, um. So for the few weeks that went on until we got an ultrasound and the genetic testing and everything else to to find out that the baby is normal. Um, thank goodness, uh, it was uh quite an experience. And then you know you can't stop, because you have all these commitments to everybody. You can't just say oh, it's hard, so I'm quitting.

Speaker 1: 43:23

You know I'm taking, you can't you have to power through it, you gotta power through it. So, yeah, that was got to power through it.

Speaker 2: 43:27

So, yeah, that was pretty traumatic lately in life. But you know, throughout life we go through those things, you know, constantly. And I think when it involves you know, someone that's very close to us, you know, and especially our children, it can be much more stressful than anything else.

Speaker 1: 43:48

I can feel my heart skip a beat right now. It's just, oh God, that two week limbo. You guys probably didn't even sleep.

Speaker 2: 43:56

My poor wife and the stress that she had to go through. My poor thing, dude First baby, right the whole thing, it shouldn't have been like that and we still can't explain how the doctor even came to that a conclusion yeah, but at least you went and got another, another specialist's opinion. Yeah, well, we got a neurosurgeon, an mri, and did all the way past us.

Speaker 1: 44:19

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's nothing better than that man, good, good lord. So how far out is she now?

Speaker 2: 44:24

uh, so she's, she's, uh seven weeks away from having the baby so first week, uh uh, 10th to 12th of september. Um, they're gonna induce stab them.

Speaker 1: 44:36

Well, my birthday's 9, 11 I know bro so you said the 10th to the 12th. I'm right in the middle man you can name.

Speaker 2: 44:44

Name them ryan bro, that's great dude well, man.

Speaker 1: 44:48

Thank you very much for coming, dude.

Speaker 2: 44:50

I really appreciate it.

Speaker 1: 44:50

Is there anything else you want our audience to know about you? But I do also want you to give them. Uh, how can people get ahold of you?

Speaker 2: 44:58

Oh sure, yeah, Um uh, people get ahold of me directly uh, at the factory, at our factory, anytime. It's uh uh, premier manufacturing or PMG manufacturing, uh, 10-day Doors in Lake Havasu. Here I've had the same cell number for 33 years, so you can call me on my cell or anything else, email me, text me. I'd love you to get a hold of me and I'd love to help you fulfill your dreams in any way that I can. And I appreciate you having me on, ryan, and genuinely appreciate working with you, um uh, and all your projects uh, current and the future and past. So, uh, a lot of fun stuff. It's good stuff, and you know I love to work with people that that really throw their balls out there and make it happen.

Speaker 1: 45:42

You're a guy that has. Yeah, you do.

Speaker 2: 45:44

Oh boy, you're a guy that has big vision and makes everything come, come to fruition. So I respect that a lot about you and and, uh, your investors really should. Yeah, Um you're a guy that really gives a shit and breaks his back to do what you say. And and uh, they're few and far between nowadays.

Speaker 1: 45:59

So thank you, it means a lot, brother, I really do. Thank you very much. And guys, as you know, onto the next really appreciate the following Love you.